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context on what transportation problems there are or if most people already choose sustainable modes. (Most of my work has been in the US and UK, where everything centers around driving cars.) After talking to a few friends from Taipei, I'm learning that car ownership is low, and there aren't many barriers to cycling, using a moped, or public transit -- so maybe the project isn't a good fit. But if you're interested in
OpenStreetMap, the idea of this software, or learning some Rust, let me know, and we can either form a team for this hackathon, or just work on things.
(Sorry to cross-post here and #self-intro; I didn't realize this channel is 20x bigger)
<kiang> Taiwan is extremely lack of sidewalks, especially for cities other than Taipei. And road traffic accidents took 3000 people away last year. Your project is great for us. But the major problem is that there are not many people care about it. XD
(It's great to talk about your project here. ;) )
<dabreegster> Sidewalks are very expensive to pave/construct. Is there any sort of movement towards "low traffic neighborhoods" where streets are closed to through-traffic to give people more room to walk? This idea was unheard of in the US before 2020, but low traffic due to COVID caused a bunch of places to try it out, and the idea seems to be sticking.
(I'll close off the thread in the other channel)
<kiang> "Low traffic neighbourhood" is cool. But it's never happened in Taiwan. We have a stupid "_quiet traffic zone_" policy, asking cars to keep silent/slow when passing. And just like many traffic rules, people only follow it when there's policeman nearby.
<dabreegster> You mentioned that not enough people care about the accident rate. What do you think would convince the government / citizens to try this kind of idea? If you can get temporary permits, the "tactical urbanism" approach is to use cheap barriers to block off streets and add temporary seating or playground equipment to let people imagine how road space could be used in other ways. Or are people afraid closing a few
streets would back up traffic, and visualizing with a simulation would ease fears?
<kiang> I'm living in Tainan. People always put their personal belongings in public area, including roads. It's very hard to close just one street for several days. XD
<chewei> in 2020 presidential hackathon, there was a WayFic Project dealing with ambulance dispatching problem
SUMO (Simulation of Urban Mobility)
<little78926> > 我要錄自介 I want to record my intro
> 您需要有 g0v Slack 帳號，才能在這裡錄自介喔。 You need to sign up on g0v Slack first.
@undefined @undefined 自介沒辦法用slack登入
<dabreegster> WayFic looks pretty cool! Google translate is throttling me right now, so I can't read the writeup just yet. Happen to have a github link? Calibrating a SUMO model with a realistic network and demand is very hard; I'm interested in how this group did it
<chewei> <@U025ZP41YAF> !
<chiehg0v> 可能明天請 ronny 確認一下，我這邊按登入之後他會導到 slack 網頁版，不過我再按一次自介的網址登入的時候會跳出一個畫面是 Jothon Helper is requeesting peemission to access g0v slack workspace
<chiehg0v> 我也另外改了大松共筆上面這頁的顯示方式，希望變成彈出視窗可以解決
<cckaron28> Hi Dustin, I'm Aaron Kao. Greeting from WayFic team :slightly_smiling_face:. ABstreet is really an amazing project!
Most of our works are open-source on github but not updated for a while. However, we are very willing to share our project development and contest experience with you.
In brief, we were focus on building a navigation platform for *emergency vehicles*, included the navigator (Client), data sharing platform (Server) with traffic data model (common ML Algorithm) and interact with SUMO by TraCI Interface.
Trying to integrate them into a total solution to *decrease emergency vehicle's traffic time in Taipei City*.
Routing for emergency vehicles is a really interesting topic -- do you need to know traffic signal timing, street width/clearance in the case of street parking? I've been unsuccessfully trying to convince the Seattle authorities to release signal timing as public data, and have tried surveying it in person in the meantime. How was it to build on top of TraCI?
<ronnywang> @undefined 你是在哪個環境下出現這畫面的呢？是手機嗎
<little78926> 剛剛又點了一次 我想應該是因為之前放在hackfolder底下 有cors問題
@undefined 可以協助修改Gather Town販賣機改開到上面的連結嗎? 或開一下建造權限我來改
<caleb> Sup Dustin, admirable efforts, I love A/B street. I think your project idea is good. Obviously there are lots of obstacles to any form of street reform in Taiwan, beyond just legal, but I think it's absolutely necessary. Taiwan already has, imo, the best public transit in the world. If it could be a vanguard of safe and clean streets as well, that'd be one more thing to add to the list of "stuff Taiwan does better than
anybody else." The information gathered from an app like you propose would be very useful to have when discussing with the government ideas for reform. I'm not Taiwanese, and I only have a year and a half of experience under my belt, but I motorcycle and bicycle here and think it could be fun to give you a little walkaround of my part of town and chat with you about what the road situation is like here
<caleb> Taiwan in particular has some unique attributes that could dramatically flesh out the complexity for your app. For example, there's a different set of rules for cars, motorcycles over 500cc, motorcycles between 250 and 500cc, scooters/motorcycles between 250 and 500cc, and scooters <50cc. The rules can be HUGE difference, for example scooters <250cc often aren't allowed to make left turns: they have to cross an
intersection, then stop at the perpendicular-going-leftwards road ("hook turn") light, and then wait for it to turn green.
<chnejohnson> @undefined 想到一個問題，這個流程是不是沒辦法預防一個人可能認領多個徽章？
<gasolin> 對, 跟 ptt 上交換博客來 coupon 一樣
<gasolin> 比較理想的做法是跟報名綁在一起
做個網站或App, 輸入報名者的id或序號可以換一組 redeem code
<chnejohnson> kktix 好像也沒有給每個報名者一個 id 或序號
<chnejohnson> 想到一個方法是，jothon 應該有報名者的 email 清單，所以網站的話需要 google oauth 後，比對這個人的 email 有無在清單上，有的話就可以給他 redeem code
<chiehg0v> Milo 嗨嗨嗨~~~ 有甚麼問題都歡迎發問
