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<cckaron28> Hi <@U025ZP41YAF>! I'd love to explore what you've built, even if the code's a bit outdated. Is https://github.com/cckaron/wayfic_traffic-simulator the right repo?
Routing for emergency vehicles is a really interesting topic -- do you need to know traffic signal timing, street width/clearance in the case of street parking? I've been unsuccessfully trying to convince the Seattle authorities to release signal timing as public data, and have tried surveying it in person in the meantime. How was it to build on top of TraCI?
Yes, it's the right repo. We used OSM to generate road map in Da-an District, and simulated a normal emergency task that started from fire station to hospital.
It's a great chance to get *real-world data* in hackathon contest. By cooperating with different departments in Taipei City, we could get traffic signal timing rule of some intersections and emergency vehicle's GPS records, which help us understand the real-world scenario. But these aren't public data due to security and privacy issues, and the data integrity still has room for improvement.
<cckaron28> Yes <@U025Z2Y2WSE>, it's the right repo. We used OSM to generate road map for Da-an District in Taipei City, and simulated a normal emergency task that started from fire station to hospital. Also, demonstrate the concept of emergency lane that could make way for ambulance by using SUMO sublane model.
It's a great chance to get *real-world data* in hackathon contest. By cooperating with different departments in Taipei City, we could get traffic signal timing rule of some intersections and emergency vehicle's GPS records, which help us understand the real-world scenario. But these aren't public data due to security and privacy issues, and the data integrity still has room for improvement.
Therefore, we also collaberate with tech company in Taiwan that has more complete maps information in Taiwan. To build up a customized simulation environment for emergency vehicle, road info like street width and high limitation is indispensable because it will affect their driving path and behavior.
<dabreegster> <@U01BXL1NYCR>, thank you for the context -- I didn't know about all the different vehicle classifications and that they affect the rules so much. Just getting regular traffic moving semi-realistically and not getting stuck has been incredibly tough. I'd have to give lots of thought about how to handle hook turns both in the map representation (OSM has
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Two-stage_bicycle_turn for tagging something similar) and simulation layer.
I've got plenty of other projects on my plate and since Taiwan has such different road setups, I might not try this anytime soon, unless there's strong interest from other people in collaborating. I'd still like to chat and learn more of your experiences biking/motorcycling around, and keep hook turns in mind for the future!
<dabreegster> <@U025ZP41YAF>, it's really great that there are ways to cooperate with the departments and other companies and get all the data you need. In the US, maybe the only way to do that is to be affiliated with an academic group
<thenhbushman> <@U025Z2Y2WSE> in Taiwan, cycling is a recreation, not a mode of transportation. You never see Taiwan people riding a bike (unless they are elderly, or a foreigner) without full racing apparel. Taipei though, is not really an accurate representation of the rest of Taiwan. Outside of Taipei there are tons of gas scooters, increasing use of electric scooters (but not as replacements for gas, just additional units
as foreign labor are buying them). But even where I live, the Hsinchu industrial park, there is a $1 USD bus to the High Speed Rail and other buses to the major train stations, all very cheap. So-called city "bicycle lanes" are ill placed and taken over by car parking and bus stops. So, people prefer to cycle in rural areas. I'd like to know more about what you meant by encouraging citizens to "re-design streets".
<philippe.chiu> `So-called city "bicycle lanes" are ill placed and taken over by car parking and bus stops` this isn’t specific to Taiwan. So many examples all around the world (Paris, New York…) :rage:
<chiehg0v> 嗨大家~
今天晚上 21:00 GMT+8 將會有黑客松的暖身活動 ── 松前哈啦,歡迎想提前來跟大家聊天、練習使用 Gather Town,或是沒有搶到大松門票的朋友都一起上線相聚。
另外有報名週六黑客松的朋友們,也要記得事先填寫/錄製三個關鍵字自我介紹唷 >>> https://bit.ly/2Uyg6XH
<chihao> 有 gather town 的松前哈拉蠻不一樣的
<chihao> 大家可以走動測試功能
<chihao> 跟聲音純聊天的效果不太一樣
<chihao> :thinking_face:
<chiehg0v> 謝謝大家上線哈拉~~~~,明天見
<carmenkuo0628> 明天見!
<chewei> 想詢問 週六大松第一個提案的 TJ,目前有開 slack channel 嗎?