Denny Huang says to YSITD https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%8C%E9%8C%A6%E8%A1%97-%E9%80%99%E6%A2%9D%E8%A1%97%E4%B8%8A%E7%9A%84%E9%82%A3%E4%BA%9B%E6%95%85%E4%BA%8B